There is no such thing as a "sub crossover". That filter only applies to the separate LFE track found in 5. It has nothing to do with the bass from the other speakers in the system. The LFE track is authored to have content up to Hz and so any other choice is incorrect. The lowpass filter on the sub itself should be all the way up to the highest frequency as you have it.
That function is performed correctly by the bass management system in the Onkyo that applies the proper highpass and lowpass filters to the signals going to all speakers. Now, this won't fix the issue you are having. That is most likely due to acoustical problems in your room that are concentrated in that region. Raising the crossover to a higher frequency has the huge benefit of sending more content to the sub.
The MultEQ subwoofer filter has 8x more resolution that what is found in the other speakers and this will provide a much smoother bass response.
Last night, I re-located the sub, re-calibrated using MultEQ and raised the front crossover as you recommended. I noticed a big improvement, especially in the bass clarity. No more saturation or volume spikes during LFE-heavy scenes. A question about ceiling speakers: I have been told that even though MultEQXT set my ceiling speakers crossover to 40Hz, it would be better to raise the crossover to at least Hz, in order to minimize problems caused by the speakers being flush with the ceiling surface.
Your thoughts? MultEQ does not set crossovers. It simply finds the roll off that each speaker has in the room and where it's placed. The crossovers are set by the AVR maker. There is a benefit in raising the crossover up: the MultEQ filters in the subwoofer channel have 8x more resolution and so will produce a smoother bass response.
I would recommend using 80 Hz. Can you explain "roll off". My speakers are 80hzk and subs 27hzhz. Only crossover I have is in av for sub. Av amps default is hz. After running your software crossover says hz will I lose anything from other speakers if I put crossover to 80hz instead of the hz.
Just read sub crossover should be 10hz or 20hz above lowest frequency of mains. Sound right? Roll off means the frequency at which the speaker response starts to decrease.
The crossover consists of two filters: One is a highpass that sends the higher frequency content to the speaker. The other is a lowpass that sends the lower frequency content to the sub.
Crossovers only exist in AVRs. The filter on the back of the subwoofer is just a lowpass filters and is not a crossover. It is there for people with old 2-ch analog gear that has no bass management. MultEQ measures the roll off of the speaker in your room. It doesn't matter what the spec sheet says. The room and speaker position change the low frequency performance. So, MultEQ will stop applying correction below Hz in your case.
Crossover - Various - Crossovers (File you move the crossover lower than that then MultEQ will MP3) be applying correction below it. Sound will still play, but we don't recommend doing that.
Please ignore the " Hz higher" suggestion. That is internet talk and not based on any science. Best to leave the crossover at the frequency that MultEQ found. Got 2Eq. I had to reduce crossover too 80hz as I could pin point sub at hz, plus at hz the place was shaking bad at ref level which I always listen at. First off, this "Ask Audyssey" is a great tool for the Audyssey enabled audio enthusiast! Thank you. I too frequent AVS Forum deepstang.
The positioning of the speaker greatly affects the low frequency roll off. For example, if a speaker is near a wall or corner then it will extend below the roll off frequency listed in the specifications. Typically, we recommend leaving the crossover where the measurements found it.
However, moving it up to a slightly higher frequency is fine as well. You may want to simply give it a try. Yes, when you set a crossover frequency the bass management system sends all content below that frequency to the subwoofer. In addition, the content in the separate LFE track is sent to the subwoofer as well.
The LFE track is separate and doesn't depend on the crossover setting for each of the satellite speakers. It is funny that you mention speakers being blaced near a wall or near a corner, because I have both scenarios in my application.
In theory I still wonder if it is better to follow THX recommendations where it is believed the sub will do a better job playing frequencies below 80Hz vs the mains. After running the auto setup, my mains, Sonus Faber Concertos, were set to FullRange and the center Concerto was set to 40hz crossover. The low bass on stereo music was distinctly lacking. Looking at the MutliEq curves displayed by thethey were set low on the 60 hz end, so it makes sense that shutting off the MultiEq XT helped.
However, the curve that MultiEq set also makes sense because I know my room has a big bump around the 60hz range. It didn't help any so I looked at the crossover that it had set to 40hz. In the end changing the mains to Large and raising the crossover to 60 or 80 hz fixed the problem and allowed me to turn the MultiEq back on. From reading this and other threads, Crossover - Various - Crossovers (File sounds like it was the AVR, not Audyssey that decided incorrectly to set my speakers to Large, correct?
Even so, I assume the 40hz crossover came from Audyssey, but 40hz was definitely not correct either, Crossover - Various - Crossovers (File. Is all this indicative of some trouble in the auto setup that maybe I should retry or persue with Marantz?
Sorry, previous post should read "In the end changing the mains to SMALL and raising the crossover to 60 or 80 hz fixed the problem and allowed me to turn the MultiEq back on. Audyssey found the roll off to be 40 Hz and I am fairly certain that is correct. Proximity to walls and corners can have a huge effect on the roll off frequency of a speaker. No, there is no trouble. Just Crossover - Various - Crossovers (File any Large speaker to Small after the calibration is finished.
Just regarding 2, with the crossover set to 40hz, speakers set to small, and MultiEQ on, some bass frequencies are most definitely missing. Shutting off MultiEQ fixes the problem, and alternatively leaving MultiEQ on but setting the crossover to 60hz fixes the problem. That makes me think that either the eq curve or the 40hz roll off must be wrong, no?
Ok, I have done some more experiments with interesting results. I started by rerunning the auto-setup just to make there was no transient problem. Again, it set mains to large upon changing them to small, the crossover was set at 40hz.
I listened to the Diana Krall's "All or Nothing At All" repeatedly moving the crossover up from 40 hz, and got quite interesting results. With MultiEQ OFF, the recording sounded more or less unchanged as I moved the crossover up until I got to a fairly extreme hz, at which point bass got a little boomy, but not terribly so. With MultiEQ ON, bass was getting a bit boomy even at 60hz, and any crossovers higher than 80hz were completely unbearable. So, my situation appears to be that if I want to use the MultiEQ, then I need to leave the crossover set down to 40 hz where the auto setup detected it.
I would have suspected that the sub level was simply too high, but it was set by the auto setup, and the test with MultiEQ OFF shows that the response is pretty consistent up to a crossover of at least hz. Ray, are you sure you don't have Audyssey Dynamic EQ enabled?? Also, are you sure that you do not have any type of eq or filter enabled on your subwoofer?? Also, is the sub level set by Audyssey not at an extreme ie. What sub do you have, and where is it positioned? I ran these tests with Dynamic EQ off and at reasonable level for focused listening.
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